Thunder is 22 yrs young hacks with or without company..safe as they come..good to clip n blacksmith..sad sale due to being field ornament for last 5 yrs..n daughter now at college.no loan.comes with all tack n full wardrobe which is worth easily 850..any details or info pics or vids inbox me..5 star home a must..This horse is every mothers dream..excellent school master he as done very little mileage generally..be lovely family member.